burdens of fasting, for example, on the laity, but flout them themselves.57 Some of the dialogues are, at first sight at least, little more than long lists of anti-clerical complaints, the traditional gravamina, with a particular focus on the Papacy and Rome. This is true, for example, of the Schultheiss. It is largely a call for reform, with a minimum of theology, no emphasis on justification by faith, and almost no traces of the mystical or apocalyptic notes one comes across in so many of the